WarPac victory in standart WW3: aftermath for West Germany, Denmark and Benelux?

Edward Brock Jr.

I'm not sure that FRG join GDR. Maybe Germanies just would co-exist together like France and TNO's Burgundy?
How many civilians escape from those countries? Could communist/socialist parties have more influense after war?
Possible Galls's reaction if Reds invade Rhineland? (if they for some reason not create DMZ again.)
Can we see annexation of Borhnholm by Poles? Maybe they created exclaves in FRG or Jutland like Zastaw spiski?
Thanks for answers.
 
TheKutKu

TheKutKu

ObssesedNuker said:
Pre or post-1960?

If pre, then whatever their Soviet masters tell them after the Red Army reaches Paris. If post, they probably break out the nukes.
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De Gaulle never had a threatening nuclear deterrent in the context of this scenario - SLBM and IRBM were introduced after his retirement (early-72 and mid-71 respectively), and the Mirage IV force could largely be intercepted before hitting russia in the case the USSR had succesfuly invaded and air control over germany, low countries and parts of scandinavia (beside being only A-bombs). The proper question is what Pompidou, Giscard and Mitterand do.
 
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Lalli

When and how? What exactly is this victory? How nuclear destruction is avoided? Too many questions...

But Germany probably is not re-united. It would be too strong nation even if it would be severely destroyed. Probably West Germany is just disbanded to smaller puppet states. Denmark might be puppetised but I don't think Bornholm changing owner. Poland hardly would want that and it anyway is just under goodwill of Moscow what their slaves allies get. Not sure about Norway. USSR probably takes Svalbard. But rest of Norway is uncertain without more detail on this WW3.
 

Blue cat

Lalli said:
When and how? What exactly is this victory? How nuclear destruction is avoided? Too many questions...

But Germany probably is not re-united. It would be too strong nation even if it would be severely destroyed. Probably West Germany is just disbanded to smaller puppet states. Denmark might be puppetised but I don't think Bornholm changing owner. Poland hardly would want that and it anyway is just under goodwill of Moscow what their slaves allies get. Not sure about Norway. USSR probably takes Svalbard. But rest of Norway is uncertain without more detail on this WW3.
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If a nuclear outcome is avoided some how, one should consider what the attitudes of the U.S. and or the UK are. Do they simply wash their hands of the situation, or threaten nuclear war to get the best possible “deal” for Western Europe, or something in between ?
 
Fries

Fries

Depends on the date. I think that after 1980 it's unlikely for Germany to be fully reunited; the East German government had been nationalist-izing East Germany and promoting a separate East German identity, and while I think the DDR annexing most of the BRG I think regions like Bavaria and maybe even Schleswig might become if not independent then at least rather autonomous. Denmark is likely brought into the Eastern Bloc and I don't think Bornholm changes hands. Depending on where the offensive went for the Soviets, I could see the BeNeLux being divided. Maybe through Belgium and the Netherlands, with Luxembourg falling firmly in the Soviet sphere.

Edward Brock Jr. said:
Maybe Germanies just would co-exist together like France and TNO's Burgundy?
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Notably, in TNO Burgundy is still technically a part of Germany proper (at least by 1962). It's not a separate country, it's just independent in all but name: an "Order State" of Germany.
 
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