No apology needed.
Making a faster Rodney or Nelson is good, and I never liked the 3x3 all forward layout. Apart from looking awful, it seems a high risk plan to have all the turrets together.
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An AH Battle: An Alternate Battle of the Denmark Straight - (Operation Rheinübung) 1942.
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Making a faster Rodney or Nelson is good, and I never liked the 3x3 all forward layout. Apart from looking awful, it seems a high risk plan to have all the turrets together.
Great minds think alike, though Ewen Chatfield wasn't fully happy at the time with the compromise. The initial design allowed a shorter thicker belt which isn't feasible with the change. To cover the extra length and get the speed the main belt was only 300mm (12-inches) down from the original designs 14-inches. Even the lighter main armament and only four twin 6-inch secondaries it couldn't quite keep the original thickness ITTL. Offsetting this he got his way with the armor of the later BB designs. T
Table and Maps 1 & 2
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As promised here are the Table and Maps 1 & 2. I've still got to do the surface action map and that will be along soon with some pIccies. (PS: Which eagle-eyed AU contrarian can spot my “deliberate” mistake?) Actually I will load the corrected file with the surface action map soon, sorry. T
See post #34 for updated images . T
See post #34 for updated images . T
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The Royal Navy definitely classed her as different but it could still be argued that that's the correct designation. (PS. I do side with the RN for your information).
BP could not read Kriegsmarine Enigma at this time. They were reading other keys, which provided very limited information about KM operations. British forces were directed to capture naval Enigma material whenever possible, which led to breaking the key in June 1941.
DUH.... (Facepalm), You can look as much as you like but that’s why you need another pair of eyes. Actually I only spotted this once I had loaded it. Think “the heinous hun has caused this ghost to rise “ in the table. Tks T.
Yep. Remember IOTL Bismarck tries to break south, then back towards Brest. ITTL the RN are moving into place earlier, more of a bigger threat. In addition, Lutjens turns back rather than pushing on. The carrier exchanges create delays earlier, damage etc... so basically, I have the entire battle proceeding nearer to Iceland for these reasons.
Poor old Hood cannot catch a Break!
Entertaining read.
1 thing I think you have missed in this story is that in 1942 airpower in Iceland was much stronger than in 1941 when it had only just been stood up and was dealing with the issues of weather and lack of infrastructure!
OTL this was not really fully resolved until 1943 but was far superior in 1942 than it was in 1941
If a breakout was expected then I am certain that increased air assets would be surged to the Island
Entertaining read.
1 thing I think you have missed in this story is that in 1942 airpower in Iceland was much stronger than in 1941 when it had only just been stood up and was dealing with the issues of weather and lack of infrastructure!
OTL this was not really fully resolved until 1943 but was far superior in 1942 than it was in 1941
If a breakout was expected then I am certain that increased air assets would be surged to the Island
I thought it was with two 'Qs' and a silent F?Oh and Edinborough is spelt Edinburgh
Yep, my bad as the correct date is 1941, Just shows what trying to push into the wee small hours of the morning does to you when you get a bee in the bonnet. Thats a mistake but no one has commented on the other boo-boo I saw only after posting the table. Think, "I am master of the Universe! I am... ?" Sorry for the blunders and Tks T
Corrected Maps and Images for the Battle Chapter.
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Thank you all for your feedback..
Hopefully here are the correct maps, table and add ons for the chapter. The external eye is always needed to pick up my mistakes. A couple of thanks for noticing my errors, such as 1942 date and spelling strait as straight just to name a few. No one picked up on the table that HMS Invincible had got to ride the seas again (I'd reused the Jutland battle table to work from and somehow didn't clear the Invincible cell.). Shucks and other adjectives. Anyhow here are the ad-ons for the Battle of the Barents Sea. Look forward to your comments and feedback. Enjoy T.
An actual shot of the GZ going down.
A sonar image of the surprisingly intact GZ upright and on the bottom of the sea floor in 2016.
Hopefully here are the correct maps, table and add ons for the chapter. The external eye is always needed to pick up my mistakes. A couple of thanks for noticing my errors, such as 1942 date and spelling strait as straight just to name a few. No one picked up on the table that HMS Invincible had got to ride the seas again (I'd reused the Jutland battle table to work from and somehow didn't clear the Invincible cell.
). Shucks and other adjectives. Anyhow here are the ad-ons for the Battle of the Barents Sea. Look forward to your comments and feedback. Enjoy T. An actual shot of the GZ going down. A sonar image of the surprisingly intact GZ upright and on the bottom of the sea floor in 2016.
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The diagram of the hits on PoW looks great thank you. But add-ons for the Battle of Barents Sea? I can see you're trying to catch us out again!Thank you all for your feedback..
Hopefully here are the correct maps, table and add ons for the chapter. The external eye is always needed to pick up my mistakes. A couple of thanks for noticing my errors, such as 1942 date and spelling strait as straight just to name a few. No one picked up on the table that HMS Invincible had got to ride the seas again (I'd reused the Jutland battle table to work from and somehow didn't clear the Invincible cell.
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View attachment 907565 An actual shot of the GZ going down.
View attachment 907566 A sonar image of the surprisingly intact GZ upright and on the bottom of the sea floor in 2016.
